Ben, have you considered just pulling together your own workshop group? In undergrad I knew a few people who were really into creative writing, and we’d just hang out at someone’s apartment at night, have a few bourbons, write, and then bounce ideas off each other, have people to proof read, etc. (This is also how we did our scholarly writing.)
I know part of having a class is that you have deadlines, but is a deadline in community college any more real than an artificially imposed deadline you and a few friends make?
I ran something like this after I left the UCLA creative writing program. It was awesome and did provide the sort of motivation I was looking for. Unfortunately, being back in Phila, I don’t know that many people who are interested in writing. I know a lot of comics and a lot of my friends have weird / cool / interesting hobbies (48hr film festival, etc) but as far as just straight writers, I’m not sure I could scare up enough to form a group.
Yeah, if only there was some useful technological tool that could be used to bring together people with common interests who live in different parts of the world…
Maybe you can search the internet for something like that ;-)
Yeah, I know. That’s what Thrill Seekers was supposed to be (as well as the old RM Writing Forum). But as much as I wish this series of tubes would solve those logistical problems, for some reason a forum has never been able to take the place of an actual writing group. Hopefully some of the plans that SubtleDig has with the magazine and new forum space will work better going forward.
Maybe instead of an online writing group, you should just aim for the next evolutionary leap, an open source novel.
But really, I agree, there’s no substitute for in person work shopping. Sucks that I live in the literary wasteland that is Huntsville, Alabama instead of the literary mecca that is Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
If I understand open source programs, and I may very well not, I believe it’s code that anyone can go in an edit to fix errors, make it more efficient, whatever.
An open source novel would start with a basic plot structure and a few characters, and then people can come in and write scenes, fix parts that are sloppily written, etc.
I’ve actually been trying to work out the kinks on an idea that is sort of like that. Getting something coherent as it scales up would be the major issue. I’m thinking that something more like Penny Arcade’s Elemenstor Saga might be doable.
Clutch: I think they way it’d have to work (to stay coherent) is have one person put together the major plot points before it starts.
Not the build it as you go things, which have been done, but more like one person building a skeleton, and then a bunch of other people adding the flesh.
What the deuce? 59 minutes?? >.< I want the extra 10 minutes back *Whines*.
Great show guys.
Ben, have you considered just pulling together your own workshop group? In undergrad I knew a few people who were really into creative writing, and we’d just hang out at someone’s apartment at night, have a few bourbons, write, and then bounce ideas off each other, have people to proof read, etc. (This is also how we did our scholarly writing.)
I know part of having a class is that you have deadlines, but is a deadline in community college any more real than an artificially imposed deadline you and a few friends make?
I ran something like this after I left the UCLA creative writing program. It was awesome and did provide the sort of motivation I was looking for. Unfortunately, being back in Phila, I don’t know that many people who are interested in writing. I know a lot of comics and a lot of my friends have weird / cool / interesting hobbies (48hr film festival, etc) but as far as just straight writers, I’m not sure I could scare up enough to form a group.
I wasn’t drunk. I was…happy.
Yeah, if only there was some useful technological tool that could be used to bring together people with common interests who live in different parts of the world…
Maybe you can search the internet for something like that ;-)
Yeah, I know. That’s what Thrill Seekers was supposed to be (as well as the old RM Writing Forum). But as much as I wish this series of tubes would solve those logistical problems, for some reason a forum has never been able to take the place of an actual writing group. Hopefully some of the plans that SubtleDig has with the magazine and new forum space will work better going forward.
Maybe instead of an online writing group, you should just aim for the next evolutionary leap, an open source novel.
But really, I agree, there’s no substitute for in person work shopping. Sucks that I live in the literary wasteland that is Huntsville, Alabama instead of the literary mecca that is Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
What is an open source novel?
If I understand open source programs, and I may very well not, I believe it’s code that anyone can go in an edit to fix errors, make it more efficient, whatever.
An open source novel would start with a basic plot structure and a few characters, and then people can come in and write scenes, fix parts that are sloppily written, etc.
I’ve actually been trying to work out the kinks on an idea that is sort of like that. Getting something coherent as it scales up would be the major issue. I’m thinking that something more like Penny Arcade’s Elemenstor Saga might be doable.
What he’s saying is Open Source Novel is like Wikipedia, but a novel. With editing done, anyway. That might be kind of funny to watch come together.
Clutch: I think they way it’d have to work (to stay coherent) is have one person put together the major plot points before it starts.
Not the build it as you go things, which have been done, but more like one person building a skeleton, and then a bunch of other people adding the flesh.